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 Post subject: Frightening isn't it.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:04 pm 
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So now some big cheese warns us that the world is 'deeply in the danger zone.' If the Eurozone crisis isn't sorted we'll all be in the shoite.

So lets be positive. How do we cure the Eurozone crisis? The answer has been staring in everyone's face since 1945. Just give the problem to the British. We sort problems - thats our business.

We'd get rid of the Dagos, put the Germans in charge of everything except decisions, shoot the Poisoned Dwarf and walk off into a romantic sunset arm in arm with our true love Norway (that's the rich one.)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:23 pm 
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Hook Dangler wrote:

We'd get rid of the Dagos, put the Germans in charge of everything except decisions, shoot the Poisoned Dwarf and walk off into a romantic sunset arm in arm with our true love Norway (that's the rich one.)


But Norway, along with Russia, Japan, Iceland and others, hunt whales in contradiction of International law, thus I boycott anything produced by them.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:20 am 
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If we boycott Norway and Russia we will run out of gas; Iceland Fish and japan cars and TVs. We could probably do without the latter two countries but not the former. What about boycotting oil produced by the Saudis and their mates in the Gulf, they don't do human rights and are keen to export Sharia law, of the Wahabi version, to the whole world.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:54 am 
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Yes, a stretch to find a thread but here goes.

IMF has published its estimate of the proportion of the world's economy goes to bribes. Like to guess?
Currently around $2 trillion.
True, so much of it changes hands at the top but masses also occurs at more mundane levels.
Hardly reassures you about human nature.
In some places it's called a 'facilitation fee', whether it allies to agriculture products or armaments.

Spoke to an Asian man who recently revisited his country of origin (VN). Three Jumbo jets arrived together and disembarked their travellers. They had three immigration desks open and several staff standing behind the row of unattended desks. Touts wandered up and down the line, approaching family groups in particular, indicating that for a fee, you could become a VIP arrival and be expedited at the counter. The fee? Varied from $50 to $200 a time.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:37 am 
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Perhaps they are just trying to make up their wages to a decent level GG. Perhaps the 2 trillion in bribes is the work forces way of saying "You the rich who can afford the price of goods and chattels need to pay us lot down here a bit more and then we might not need to take bribes".
It's a thought.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:46 am 
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It's an interesting thought Crom. Where lies the line between payment for services and a bribe? The fixer offers his services to arrange a contract between companies using his contacts and is paid a fee/bribe for doing it, bit like an agent. In GG's airport case the passenger can either go through the normal process and wait hours, or pay the tout to push him through - job done, everybody happy. How wrong is that?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:33 am 
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What's wrong. Well for starters just because you have money shouldn't mean that you can circumvent the rules. Next thing that will happen if you go along those lines is that someone with money will get justice whereas someone without doesn't. Oh sorry that already happens doesn't it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:46 am 
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I'm not defending bribery, just questioning whether it's such a serious crime. We certainly can't stop it because of that hooman nacher business, but think about this one. A few years back the road men resurfaced our road and Pat, down the road, laid on tea and buns for the team when they got to her place. She's like that, our Pat, very kindly, and the men showed their gratitude by drifting the stripper a couple of yards into the verge by her house and laid her a tarmac parking spot. Bribery? You betcha! But might you not do the same given the opportunity? I wish I'd thought of it for the top of our drive that's breaking up.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:13 am 
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Nigeria on business, hotel booked and confirmed,, reception have 'no record' of booking, suggest to them that they may find the pronunciation of European names a little odd and hand over passport with a £10 note inside so they can check against their written list - note vanishes and reservation appears as if by magic. This is just one of those things, not really important and ensures a friendly receptionist for the rest of your stay.

Where it really matters is when the person responsible for placing an order worth billions lets it be known that the order will go to whoever offfers him the biggest 'facilitation fee', or when the seller offers a large 'gratutity' to the buyer for placing the order with him.


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This is just one of those things, not really important and ensures a friendly receptionist for the rest of your stay.

Once again you should have a friendly receptionist without having to give a backhander, that is the receptionists job.
Why condone that sort of thing. It is the start of the slippery slope, the thin edge of the wedge. You start off with 10 which becomes 100, then 1000 and eventually to millions and nobody blinks an eye because that's 'uman natcher innit. No it bloody well ain't.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:21 pm 
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In Nigeria it works the other way round - all the rich people bribe their way to success, bit like this country, and, unlike this country, everybody else follows suit. In this country if the ordinary people try to follow the lead of their 'betters' the law (made and operated by the rich and famous) comes down on them like a ton of bricks.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:27 pm 
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Is the Buddhist creed of not killing anything under threat? Are they joining the rest of the world in the "if it makes me a buck or two I'm for it" way of the world? Perhaps they were hoping that someone would hand the journalist 10 quid to keep quiet and allow them to carry on with the same old hypocrisy.

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Thai wildlife authorities found 40 tiger cub carcasses in a freezer in Thailand's infamous Tiger Temple on Wednesday as they removed live animals in response to international pressure over suspected trafficking and abuse.
The Buddhist temple in Kanchanaburi province west of Bangkok had become a tourist destination where visitors snapped selfies with bottle-fed cubs.
But the temple has been investigated for suspected links to wildlife trafficking and abuse. A raid that began on Monday is the latest move in a tug-of-war since 2001 to bring the tigers under state control.
Tiger parts are used in traditional Chinese medicine.

You just can't trust anyone these days. Even a receptionist with 10 quid in the back pocket if Buddhist have back pockets.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:39 pm 
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Cumberland Cockney wrote:
In GG's airport case the passenger can either go through the normal process and wait hours, or pay the tout to push him through - job done, everybody happy. How wrong is that?

The point was that they could have opened the extra gates, using the staff standing watching, deliver the service they're paid for, and let the paying tourists through in the expected manner.
When you make it plain that they aren't welcome, they'll take their custom - and cash - elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:42 pm 
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Perhaps the 2 trillion in bribes is the work forces way of saying "You the rich who can afford the price of goods and chattels need to pay us lot down here a bit more....

The vast majority goes to lawyers, economists, weapons dealers, government ministers, local mayors and the like, so that the wife can have her own Rolls. Almost all of central African countries run like this, and plenty of Asian ones too.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:10 pm 
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Ah, the perks of fame and fortune. The girl has manipulated her presence and endorsements with cagy cunning and has done well on it.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/tayl ... ?r=US&IR=T

The unintended consequence (they can be a bugger) is that stalkers now leave her in constant fear when out and about among normal (?) people. The BBC announced overnight that she now travels with 'military-grade dressings' in case she is accosted by some deranged 'admirer'.

No thanks; I'll stick to my life.

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